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October 30, 2009


Attended by about 200 people, the speech served as the inaugural event for the David Horowitz Freedom Center–Philadelphia. Formed less than a year ago, the local center is meant to serve as the East Coast headquarters of the Los Angeles-based organization run by Horowitz, a one-time liberal turned conservative firebrand. Horowitz is the editor of the right-leaning Web site

October 29, 2009 

Controversial Dutch Pol Renders His Message

By Bryan Schwartzman, Staff Writer

Geert Wilders

A controversial Dutch lawmaker and fierce critic of Islam received an overwhelming positive response from a largely Jewish audience in Center City, just days after several dozen students protested outside Temple University, the parliamentarian’s first local stop. Both events took place under tight security.

Geert Wilders, the leader of the Netherlands Freedom Party, has angered Muslims by claiming that terrorism and violence are central components of Islam, as opposed to products of an extremist, fringe subset.

Wilders is facing charges of incitement to hatred in his native country for producing a short film called “Fitna.” The documentary has been widely viewed on the Internet, and essentially argues that the West is under siege from radical Islam.

Wilders, who has called for limiting Muslim immigration to Europe, has portrayed himself as an advocate of free speech. He’s even become a darling in certain conservative circles.

“I have nothing against Muslims. I do have a problem with Islam,” said Wilders to a burst of applause during an Oct. 22 speech held at the Union League of Philadelphia. “The Koran is an evil book; it calls for murder, terror and war.”

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  1. john permalink
    October 30, 2009 9:39 AM

    The west still has a few great men with balls who do not need some gutless, politicized media shill to tell them what to believe.

    It is an honor just to live in the same world as these guys. It is truly scary how the future of western civilization rests in the hands of such a few brave souls willing to stand alone against the bloodthirsty mob of Islamic jihadists and their useful idiots who have weaponized immigration and social decency and are determined to use our tolerance, compassion and generosity to overrun and destroy us.

    Islam is a perfect and ruthless system of mind control that exists only to extend its control. Nothing more. The idea that God chose to speak to humanity through the mouth of a murderous brigand, warlord and pedophile is beyond bizarre. This belief persists because all who stand against it have been killed for over 1400 years. Now the killing continues in the capitals of Europe and America. Every society overrun by this scourge becomes a murderous hell hole for those who live for freedom of thought and belief.

    God bless Geert Wilders and his comrades in courage! Long live western civilization! Long live intellectual and spiritual freedom! End suicidal Trojan Horse immigration policies!

  2. CheMan permalink
    October 30, 2009 10:29 AM

    Wilders does not care for Western Civilization- if he did he would stop being so close to right-wing Jews and Christians. He is just another rabble-rousing fascist who belongs in the same league as past loonies like Rabbi Kahane and Pimp Fortun!

    As far as Islam being ‘violent’, has he ever read something called the Bible? You know the book that scolds children for death for not respecting their parents, people for death for working on the Sabbath and introduces us to perverts like Moses (killing babies and pregnant women for Israel because god commanded him- just like the butchers in the IDF do today!!!), allows raping of a woman who is not engaged but has to pay fifty silver pieces, etc.

    As far Europe’s civilization, it has the same level (if not more than anywhere else in the world). The Crusades, the 100 Years War, World War I and II, etc. To suggest that Islam has brough Europe all this violence and that Europe is some fine civlization with no problems and just all around love is pure blindness. Europe has killed tens of millions in wars, empires, slavery, etc. You can’t blame Islam for this.

    The Judeo-Christian fanatics who love this ‘faggy’ looking pathetic attempt at a statemen are often people who believe in the same books that caused so many problems that the Western world finds itself in.

  3. October 30, 2009 2:23 PM

    Hmmm. Cheman should read Here is the question of the day– adherents to which religion rioted and killed people over a few cartoons? The answer is Islam. Larry David and HBO present an episode where he accidentally urinates on a picture of Jesus and there are a few completely non-violent protests. Calling Islam a violent religion is not based solely on reading the Koran. It is based on the repeated violence of adherents of Islam. The number of incidents is too many to count. But, Cheman, who killed Theo Van Gogh and why? Do you know any of that? What is the religion of the man who just deliberately ran over his daughter, and why did he do it? You are head is planted firmly in the sand. Take it out and look around.

  4. Jim Anderson permalink
    October 30, 2009 2:52 PM

    The West has to create a new political framework for its thinking about Islam. We must do that because our First Amendment and the case law flowing from it, have sanctified religious speech in a way that confuses our way of approaching Islamic threats.

    The West has to adopt a split tactical approach. We must consider it a religion with a large political/secular wing. The beliefs in Allah can be left alone. The activities which interfere with civil life, discourse, and law must be stripped of their religious connotations in Western psychological life and reduced to non-religious political aims.

    That framework will give us the political language necessary to cope with the threat from Islamists. When American politicians start diferentiating Islam’s goals for the soul fom its goals of political victory, we can engage in a discussion that will not offend the confused sensibilities of Americans who do not have much understanding of Islam’s structure.

    Though the following analogy is quite imperfect, it may serve for the moment: The British government knew that the Irish Republican Army and the Sinn Fein were the same people. But, the Irish Republican Army was considered by the Brits as the ‘illegal’ expression of the rebel movement while referring to Sinn Fein [a political party] as the legal political representative of the rebels. Negotiations could be had with Sinn Fein while the IRA was condemned. This strategic debate framework allowed positive contact to be maintained to work for civil ends while condemning the perpetrators of violence. [I know there are many more subtextual layers to the IRA / Sinn Fein/ British relations, but I’m simplifying intentionally.]

    If Western officials can start referring to – for example – the Islamic Army and include thereunder, those who would infiltrate offices on capitol hill as spies, we can identify the parameters of those members of that faith were are not under constitutional religious protections.

    Since American Muslims seem loathe to define Islam as anything beyond a religious singularity, it is incumbent on Westerners to re-define it for them. Then – if they wish to side with the illegal Islamic Army – we will have crystallized the debate. Make them abide by our terms and definitions of protected religous activity and unprotected military/political activity or corner them into saying ‘there is no difference between our religious and political goals’ – and we will then have polarizing positions that should clarify the reality on the ground in today’s America.

    By the West’s constant reference to militant Islam – we are still referring to Islam. By referrring to the militants as the political/military party with secular political goals – we can isolate them in the American psyche. We have to de-legitimize their claims to religious persecution and protection by splitting our references between religious factions and secular military groups. Then Americans will not be so loathe to address the Isalmic threat since they will have an analytical structure and language that allows them to address these issues without thinking they are talking in unconstitutional religious terms.
    Jim Anderson

  5. Zeno permalink
    October 30, 2009 4:49 PM

    CheMan displays his ignorance in that marvelous left-wing rhetorical style which equivocates biblical theology with Islam. One question, CheMan. How many civilians have been killed by Christian suicide bombers in the last 50 years, and which biblical passages were cited to justify murder?
    Cheers, Dude, read some books, learn some critical thinking skills, and then comment.

  6. aspacia permalink
    October 31, 2009 1:22 PM

    Zeno, Christianity and Judaism have reformed! Previously there was a huge amount of bloodshed in the name of Christianity. Islam needs to reform itself as well. Cheman is not off-target when he discusses Biblical violence. Moses had people stoned to death for working on the Shabbat. Islam must reform or it will be annihilated along with my support for any military action action against Saudia Arabia, or most Muslim Middle-Eastern lands.

    9/11 changed me, and many others, especially since Islamic terrorists usually hit soft targets. The most recent attacks in Kabul were against a women’s market, butchering numerous women and children. Additionally, most of their Israeli targets are also women and children. There was a statistical breakdown in the Middle-East Quarterly regarding this.

    A Deist, Feminist, Goy Zionist.


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